Joe Louis: America's Hero... Betrayed

[BeefWillingham]

Not sure where this belongs really, since its not TV.... its HBO, but has anyone else seen this? It premiered on Saturday night either before or after they replayed Pavlik-Taylor and then had Ibragimov lose to Wlad. Its pretty fascinating.

[Fritz]

I saw part of it, it was very interesting. His fight against Schnell was incredible.

[Swift]

It was a great documentary, but I can never hear the name Joe Louis and not think about Coming to America

Clarence: You must be out yo goddamn mind! Joe Louis is the greatest boxer that ever lived. I'll be with you boys in a minute. He was better than Cassius Clay, he was better than Sugar Ray, and that new dude, what's his name, Mike Tyson, looks like a bulldog, he was better than him too. Saul: What about Rocky Marciano? Clarence: Oh there they go. There they go, every time I start talkin 'bout boxing, a white man got to pull Rocky Marciano out their ass. That's their one, that's their one. Rocky Marciano. Rocky Marciano. Let me tell you something once and for all. Rocky Marciano was good, but compared to Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano ain't shit." Saul: He beat Joe Louis' ass. Sweets: That's right he did whoop Joe Louis' ass. Clarence: Joe Louis was seventy five years old when they fought... Saul: I don't know how old he was, but he got his ass whooped. Clarence: Joe Louis had come out of retirement to fight Rocky Marciano and he was seventy six years old. Joe Louis is always lying about his age. He lie about his age all the time. One time Frank Sinatra came in here and sat in this chair. I said Frank 'you hang out with Joe Louis, just between me and you, how old is Joe Louis.' You know what Frank told me, he said 'hey, Joe Louis is 137 years old.' 137 years old! Saul: Oh Man you ain't never meet no Frank Sinatra. Clarence: Fuck You! Fuck You! and Fuck you! Who's next?