Marlins Outright De Aza, Owens, Gardner and Waechter

lou · October 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM

The Marlins continued tweaking their 40-man roster, outrighting outfielder Alejandro De Aza and relievers Henry Owens, Lee Gardner and Doug Waechter to Triple A New Orleans. That leaves the Marlins with 38 players on the 40-man.

De Aza (ankle) and Owens (shoulder) spent the entire season on the disabled list while Gardner (right elbow) was on the DL from mid-April on.

In another transaction, minor-league pitcher Scott Nestor was claimed off waivers by the Phillies.

Fish Bytes

Marlins sent RHP Doug Waechter outright to Triple-A New Orleans.
Waechter, who would have been eligible for arbitration, gets bumped from the roster despite finishing with a 3.69 ERA in 63 1/3 innings. If he had been claimed off waivers, he probably would have been in line for about $1 million next year. Apparently, no team thought he was worth that much. He'll become a free agent.

Salary figure is pretty wrong, comps easily show him in the $600ish range, but he's gone. Arbitration cases dropping by the day.

Matt Wilson · October 1st, 2008, 06:12 PM

Damn, I thought Waechter could have been a valuable guy in our pen next year. But I guess $1 is too much to pay for a long reliever. Decent run as a Marlin. He won't have any trouble finding work.

Nny · October 1st, 2008, 06:28 PM

real surprised no team took a flyer on him.

A 27 year old puts up a 113 ERA+, only 50 inn but no outrageous BABIP (.284). Not a good BB/K but still. The guy could start again next year, he's still young, and at only 600k, why not take a flyer?

oh well.

(And for those that don't know, even though he was outrighted to AAA, he will be a minor league FA...so, in essence, we non-tendered him but did him a favor by putting him on waivers to give him the ability to be up for arbitration on some team)

Nny · October 1st, 2008, 06:53 PM

De Aza, Gardner, and Owens were also outrighted to AAA. Gardner is a Minor league FA, and he'd have only been making the minimum next year, so that's surprising and, imo, not smart. Owens and De Aza will not be minor league FAs, but they are also no longer on the 40 man roster. Owens injury most have been real serious if we waived him instead of optioned him....then again I also love his milb numbers and if they translate well, I think he could dominate.

Scott Nestor was also claimed off waivers by Philly. For those that don't remember, we were offering Nestor to the Phillies for Helms before.

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Ramp · October 1st, 2008, 07:18 PM

Owens must be f'd up a creek

Nny · October 1st, 2008, 07:25 PM

ADMIN FIGHT

JJ · October 1st, 2008, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Nny

ADMIN FIGHT

With myself.

KoolianoJayCubano · October 1st, 2008, 08:49 PM

Goodbye Henry VIII

Maybin is Marvelous · October 3rd, 2008, 04:46 PM

Helms was signed to a two year extension.

Nny · October 3rd, 2008, 05:12 PM

it's true

lol?

Could that signal the end for Cantu?

Or maybe Gaby?

I mean, both of those guys have more trade value than Dallas so I'd assume they would be the ones moves (And Gaby was on the list that we gave Pitt of available guys during the Manny trade).

At that point then you have Dallas/Helms platoon at third and then Cantu or Gaby at first, depending on which stays.

October 1st, 2008, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
lou Rookie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 353 T&B $: 422 Reputation: 455874	Marlins Outright De Aza, Owens, Gardner and Waechter The Marlins continued tweaking their 40-man roster, outrighting outfielder Alejandro De Aza and relievers Henry Owens, Lee Gardner and Doug Waechter to Triple A New Orleans. That leaves the Marlins with 38 players on the 40-man. De Aza (ankle) and Owens (shoulder) spent the entire season on the disabled list while Gardner (right elbow) was on the DL from mid-April on. In another transaction, minor-league pitcher Scott Nestor was claimed off waivers by the Phillies. Fish Bytes Marlins sent RHP Doug Waechter outright to Triple-A New Orleans. Waechter, who would have been eligible for arbitration, gets bumped from the roster despite finishing with a 3.69 ERA in 63 1/3 innings. If he had been claimed off waivers, he probably would have been in line for about $1 million next year. Apparently, no team thought he was worth that much. He'll become a free agent. Salary figure is pretty wrong, comps easily show him in the $600ish range, but he's gone. Arbitration cases dropping by the day. __________________ Words that correlate with winning baseball games - BATTING AVERAGE, CATALYST, COLETTI, CLUTCH, DAVID, ECKSTEIN, HUSTLE, INTANGIBLES, JOE MORGAN, LEADERSHIP, MANUFACTURING RUNS, MIKE JACOBS 2008 OBP, NEBRASKA PUNTERS FROM THE MID 1990S, PODSEDNIK, PRODUCTIVE OUTS, RBI, "STEALS AND SMILES," STOLEN BASES, VERSATILITY Last edited by JJ; October 1st, 2008 at 07:02 PM..

October 1st, 2008, 06:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Nny Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,839 T&B $: 1,478 Reputation: 1312156	real surprised no team took a flyer on him. A 27 year old puts up a 113 ERA+, only 50 inn but no outrageous BABIP (.284). Not a good BB/K but still. The guy could start again next year, he's still young, and at only 600k, why not take a flyer? oh well. (And for those that don't know, even though he was outrighted to AAA, he will be a minor league FA...so, in essence, we non-tendered him but did him a favor by putting him on waivers to give him the ability to be up for arbitration on some team) __________________ [img][/img] dear tao today i played violin in my bathtub for 4 hours. then i layed in my bed and pet my stomach. i pretended that there was a baby growing in it. i cried with my baby and then fell asleep. i dreamt that my best friend was a piece of asparagus. ellen

October 1st, 2008, 06:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nny Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,839 T&B $: 1,478 Reputation: 1312156	Marlins Make Flurry of Moves De Aza, Gardner, and Owens were also outrighted to AAA. Gardner is a Minor league FA, and he'd have only been making the minimum next year, so that's surprising and, imo, not smart. Owens and De Aza will not be minor league FAs, but they are also no longer on the 40 man roster. Owens injury most have been real serious if we waived him instead of optioned him....then again I also love his milb numbers and if they translate well, I think he could dominate. Scott Nestor was also claimed off waivers by Philly. For those that don't remember, we were offering Nestor to the Phillies for Helms before. http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fish_...s-outrigh.html Last edited by JJ; October 1st, 2008 at 07:00 PM..

October 1st, 2008, 07:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
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October 1st, 2008, 06:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Matt Wilson Pret-tay, Pret-tay Good Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 3,398 T&B $: 32,102 Reputation: 4801123 My Teams:	Damn, I thought Waechter could have been a valuable guy in our pen next year. But I guess $1 is too much to pay for a long reliever. Decent run as a Marlin. He won't have any trouble finding work.

October 1st, 2008, 07:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
Nny Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,839 T&B $: 1,478 Reputation: 1312156	ADMIN FIGHT

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Maybin is Marvelous Starter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 799 T&B $: 223 Reputation: 48631 My Teams:	Helms was signed to a two year extension.

October 3rd, 2008, 05:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nny Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,839 T&B $: 1,478 Reputation: 1312156	it's true lol? Could that signal the end for Cantu? Or maybe Gaby? I mean, both of those guys have more trade value than Dallas so I'd assume they would be the ones moves (And Gaby was on the list that we gave Pitt of available guys during the Manny trade). At that point then you have Dallas/Helms platoon at third and then Cantu or Gaby at first, depending on which stays.

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